Who are your least favorite characters from Frasier? Mine are Donny, Mel, Charlotte the matchmaker, Ann the insurance woman, and Ronnie the old babysitter.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 27, 2023 3:00 AM |
One of my least favorite characters was Daphne, because the Brit accent of that actress always sounded so studied, fake, and exaggerated to me, even though I assume it was authentic.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 25, 2023 3:37 AM |
The title character himself. The rest were lovely.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 25, 2023 3:46 AM |
R1 I also noticed how the accent changed to be more posh at the end of season 10 and all of 11. The character also started acting haughty and upper class at this time too. Chalk it up to marrying rich I guess.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 25, 2023 3:48 AM |
R2 I found Daphnes whole family rather intolerable except her father. Probably because he was played by Brian Cox and his appearance was mercifully brief.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 25, 2023 3:50 AM |
Kirby (that kid he started tutoring in the final few seasons) and any of the Moon family other than Daphnie.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 25, 2023 3:50 AM |
I thought Bulldog was dull and never funny. I was glad when they ditched him.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 25, 2023 3:51 AM |
The one arrogant, obnoxious girlfriend played by Felicity Huffman. I think it was in her last episode that they teased the idea of Niles, Daphne and Martin being willing to let her choke to death. A shame they didn't follow through (even if that's more at home on Seinfeld).
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 25, 2023 3:53 AM |
r1 It was a Brit doing a fake Brit accent Jane Leeves sounds nothing like that, and neither do Mancunians. Rather funnily John Mahoney who was from the North of England actually managed a pretty good Manchester accent in one scene when he was making fun of Daphne.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 25, 2023 3:57 AM |
R8 In that same episode Frasier was madly in love with her until she commented that his hand towels looked like a couple of old ladies lived there.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 25, 2023 3:58 AM |
I dislike most of Frasier’s one-off girlfriends. He dated a lot of bitches.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 25, 2023 4:04 AM |
I agree with the poster that Daphne's mother was a pain. Her dad (Cox) and brother (LaPaglia) were great!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 25, 2023 4:09 AM |
I actually disliked Frasier the most out of the entire show
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 25, 2023 4:10 AM |
all except Lilith but I could tolerate Noel, Alistair and Eddie
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 25, 2023 4:12 AM |
Definitely Mel. No redeeming qualities whatsoever!
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 25, 2023 4:12 AM |
Donnie. What a horrible choice to partner with Daphne. I didn't like her much, either. She always seemed irritated and kind of bitchy.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 25, 2023 4:24 AM |
The Frasier character was for the most part insufferable. And I never understood why the producers let him have that ridiculous haircut in the first few seasons. It was clear he was balding, and badly. He desperately needed a good stylist.
I agree with a previous poster that most of his girlfriends were terrible, but especially the one played by Felicity Huffman.
I actually liked Dan Butler as Bulldog. Especially in the episode when he was shirtless. So, sue me!
And, yeah, the character of Mel was off-putting. They should have ditched her much sooner.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 25, 2023 4:26 AM |
Donnie was the worst. That crooked fucked-up mouth. What had Jane Leeves done to piss off the producers/writers? Yes, the entire Moon clan was the worst. Possible exception: Richard E. Grant.
Strangely enough, I had a dream last night in which I was engaged to marry Kelsey Grammar. He had an accident that left him a quadriplegic. My dead father appeared and told me to cut him loose. Dad didn't want me saddled with that burden. Thanks, Dad!
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 25, 2023 4:32 AM |
r20 Did you eat LSD laced cheese before going to bed? I thought I had some terrible dreams.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 25, 2023 4:51 AM |
I bailed on this program pronto once the producer’s chickened out on the season ending cliff hanging promise to explore Roz’s desire to explore a sexual relationship with Frasier.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 25, 2023 4:53 AM |
Daphne’s mother was a sign that the show had dipped in quality.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 25, 2023 4:57 AM |
I didn't like Daphne either and yes her accent was forced and fake. She had no comic timing. And they kept elevating her character as though she was something terrific.
Talking of which an ex and now late friend of mine was on - Carole Shelley - she I think played the Jewish mother of a some girl Frasier wanted to impress, so he pretended to be Jewish. Carole was a total dud. You really needed to be actually funny on Frasier, you couldn't just rely on the script. Carole's flat performance clarified this for me.
One of Frasier's girlfriends was terrific - can't remember her name. Very well known.
Also whatshername, the wife of Tom Hanks was surprisingly funny - but they overplayed the situation in the end.
[quote]Daphne’s mother was a sign that the show had dipped in quality.
ANYTHING to do with Daphne was a dip.
I didn't think the father was very funny - though DL loves him so much they made him gay in real life. That's how much you gurls loved him.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 25, 2023 5:05 AM |
Sam Malone in his guest appearance. Ted Danson is one of those men who isn’t funny but thinks he is. Witless yet smug.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 25, 2023 5:18 AM |
[quote]One of Frasier's girlfriends was terrific - can't remember her name. Very well known.
I had to google her husband - Jean Smart. She was VERY funny in this.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 25, 2023 5:25 AM |
I hated all the episodes where the old Cheers characters showed up. Loved when Bebe would show up.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 25, 2023 5:42 AM |
[R21], as far as I know, my cheese is not laced with LSD. But your comment made me laugh.
John Mahoney was so disappointing on Frasier. I loved him in Moonstruck and even Say Anything. He seemed so wooden and flat on Frasier. Eddie was the best thing about that show.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 25, 2023 5:43 AM |
I may have related this before on DL, but I saw Mahoney in a couple of theater productions and was surprised by what bad performances he gave. It goes against logic, given how experienced an actor he was and the awards he'd won, but I found him almost amateurish in them. One of the productions had him use an English accent of some sort, and it sounded very fake--which is especially surprising, given that he grew up there. I wonder if he was experiencing age-related decline, sadly. I've liked him in many other things.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 25, 2023 6:10 AM |
John Mahoney’s doubled over fake guffawing was tiresome.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 25, 2023 6:58 AM |
Don't see the point of naming Mel in this context. Of course she was hated - she was meant to be hated
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 25, 2023 8:55 AM |
You have to enjoy a hateful character for it to be entertaining, r32. Jane/Mel was just unpleasant.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 25, 2023 3:17 PM |
I never really hated Mel. She was perfect for Niles since she was pretty much female him. The only point when she became a bitch when he dumped her about 2 days after the wedding seemed pretty understandable.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 25, 2023 3:40 PM |
They didn't give Carole anything to do, r24. Her role was to simply be a Jewish mother and the reason for the subterfuge. The comedy was in the subterfuge.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 35 | January 25, 2023 3:40 PM |
[quote]The only point when she became a bitch when he dumped her about 2 days after the wedding seemed pretty understandable.
I thought she was unpleasant from the beginning.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 25, 2023 3:42 PM |
Daphne was the worst of all the major characters. Then her family showed up, and they were even worse.
Mel was tolerable but the less of her the better, same for Donny.
By the last two seasons the show had lost its steam. Once the totally gay Niles married the totally insufferable Daphne, the show basically ended.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 25, 2023 3:43 PM |
We all love Marsha Mason but Sherry was the absolute fucking worst.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 25, 2023 3:44 PM |
r36 I just remember her being a prissy overclean snob. Like 90% of the other characters.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 25, 2023 3:50 PM |
Daphne didn't bother me as much as she seemed to bug some of you. The ensemble cast worked well together and can still have me busting a gut. Even minor characters like Noel Shempsky were quite funny.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 25, 2023 4:20 PM |
R9, that's really interesting. Thanks!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 25, 2023 4:24 PM |
I thought Mahoney was from Ireland originally.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 25, 2023 4:27 PM |
Marsha Mason overstayed her welcome. A couple episodes would have been enjoyable but 7 was too many for a guest star. Felicity Huffman also had too many episodes at 8 which was 8 too many for this viewer.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 25, 2023 8:25 PM |
Charles John Mahoney was born in Blackpool, England. His paternal grandfather was Irish.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 25, 2023 8:28 PM |
Some characters definitely would’ve been more tolerable with fewer appearances. I enjoyed Millicent Martin in small doses but Daphne’s mother was indeed overused in season 10. The less said about Huffman’s role, the better.
They would’ve been wise to remember their “less is more” edict which applied to Bebe the agent. Ken Levine said that they decided very early on not to overuse her; they wanted it to be a real treat every time she showed up.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | January 26, 2023 4:34 PM |
[quote]I actually liked Dan Butler as Bulldog. Especially in the episode when he was shirtless. So, sue me!
Oh, honey!
He was shite with or without his stupid shirt one.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 26, 2023 4:39 PM |
I saw the episode where Bebe has to quit smoking and was doubled over laughing. That actress could do a crazed cunning look perfectly.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 26, 2023 4:52 PM |
[quote]I didn't think the father was very funny - though DL loves him so much they made him gay in real life.
Um, we didn’t make him gay. He was gay.
And if we were going to “make” anyone gay, I can think of better looking people than him.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 26, 2023 4:52 PM |
I just can't see it with Bebe. I don't care for that actress or character. I'm surprised she is so well liked. I thought she stunk.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 26, 2023 5:41 PM |
Bulldog was alright in small doses but the horny jock persona was a lot less funny than horny Roz.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 26, 2023 5:45 PM |
John Mahoney was out in real life. Not bad for an old gut IMO. His straight character played gay a few times on the show.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 26, 2023 5:47 PM |
Very true r54! With Roz it was funny.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 26, 2023 5:49 PM |
One of my favorite Roz moments, R56, was when she was cooing over a puppy, then immediately coldly insisted that she had no interest in adopting it. Frasier was startled and she said something to the effect of doing the exact shame thing when it came to men.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 27, 2023 3:00 AM |
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